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According to the Collins English Dictionary 10th Edition fraud can be defined as: "deceit, trickery, sharp practice, or breach of confidence, perpetrated for profit or to gain some unfair or dishonest advantage".[1] In the broadest sense, a fraud is an intentional deception made for personal gain or to damage another individual; the related adjective is fraudulent. The specific legal definition varies by legal jurisdiction. Fraud is a crime, and also a civil law violation. Defrauding people or entities of money or valuables is a common purpose of fraud, but there have also been fraudulent "discoveries", e.g. in science, to gain prestige rather than immediate monetary gain
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Monday, October 17, 2011

GoldmanSachs666 Comment of the Day

Here is a comment that takes the honor of "headline of the day".  It comes to us from Support OWS.

Here now the comment:
I had to laugh because Ann Coulter was on Fox News telling the viewers
that Bush allowed Lehman to fail and that Obama was responsible for
bailing out Goldman and AIG.  I would like to correct that statement on
behalf of the mildly retarded Coulter, because it was actually Henry
Paulson, former Goldman CEO, who planned out - in conjunction with Tim
Geithner - who was head of the NY Fed at the time - the game plan to let
Lehman collapse and then devised the plan to bailout Goldman Sach and
the other big banks who were catastrophically exposed to AIG - along
with the scheme to have the Government takeover AIG.  All this was
set-up before Obama took office, although recall that Obama and McCain
suspended their campaigns to help devise this plan.  Geithner - despite
being a confirmed tax cheater/dodger - was inserted into the Treasury
Secretary position in order to oversee the implementation of the plan
devised under Bush."
Yes, more slanted, biased reporting found on Fox.  This comment's description of Ann Coulter is also comical if not mildly accurate.

It is important to understand where these problems really began.  In reality it could be said that it began during the Clinton Administration and the repeal of the Glass Steagall Act (GSA) in 1999.  Below you will find a good explanation of the GSA, the why, the when and the who.

That said, our comment of the day speaks loudly as to the partisanship that exists in this country today.  Like a religion, people hang on to their beliefs with closed minds.  Each side sees their side of things truly eliminating the reality in favor of promoting a possible "win".

Like her (Ann Coulter) or not ( I do not) - she does command an audience out there and supposedly functions as a reporter/journalist/author.  Any of which should allow for more truth and reality not one ill focused views.  However, it is not the first time I have heard all the blame put onto our current President Obama whose change we can believe in policy proved to me that if we truly want change it must come from the masses who must organize against the classes (Occupy Wall Street).

For what ever reason in our country today, failed policies are continued on and passed from one administration to another even with a change in political party control.  Perhaps, just perhaps, the sci fi depictions of corporations taking over control of the world is becoming the true reality.

What is real important to understand is that our current problem is owned by both the Democrats - past and present - as well as the Republicans - past and present.  So our readers comments offering up an explanation to the alleged statements by Coulter via Fox is valid. 

While talking about truth and reality, I must admit that I did not personally hear or see the FOX report referred to in today's comment of the day.  So I  must offer this disclamer.
The views and comments expressed by our reader in the comment of the day are those of that reader.  These views and comments are not verified nor endorsed by, this writer nor any of the GS666 staff and volunteers.

What was the Glass Steagall Act (GSA)?

In 1933, in the wake of the 1929 stock market crash and during a nationwide commercial bank failure and the Great Depression, two members of Congress put their names on what is known today as the Glass-Steagall Act (GSA). This act separated investment and commercial banking activities. At the time, "improper banking activity", or what was considered overzealous commercial bank involvement in stock market investment, was deemed the main culprit of the financial crash. According to that reasoning, commercial banks took on too much risk with depositors' money. Additional and sometimes non-related explanations for the Great Depression evolved over the years, and many questioned whether the GSA hindered the establishment of financial services firms that can equally compete against each other. We will take a look at why the GSA was established and what led to its final repeal in 1999.

Reasons for the Act - Commercial SpeculationCommercial banks were accused of being too speculative in the pre-Depression era, not only because they were investing their assets but also because they were buying new issues for resale to the public. Thus, banks became greedy, taking on huge risks in the hope of even bigger rewards. Banking itself became sloppy and objectives became blurred. Unsound loans were issued to companies in which the bank had invested, and clients would be encouraged to invest in those same stocks.

Effects of the Act - Creating BarriersSenator Carter Glass, a former Treasury secretary and the founder of the U.S. Federal Reserve System, was the primary force behind the GSA. Henry Bascom Steagall was a House of Representatives member and chairman of the House Banking and Currency Committee. Steagall agreed to support the act with Glass after an amendment was added permitting bank deposit insurance (this was the first time it was allowed).

As a collective reaction to one of the worst financial crises at the time, the GSA set up a regulatory firewall between commercial and investment bank activities, both of which were curbed and controlled. Banks were given a year to decide on whether they would specialize in commercial or in investment banking. Only 10% of commercial banks' total income could stem from securities; however, an exception allowed commercial banks to underwrite government-issued bonds. Financial giants at the time such as JP Morgan and Company, which were seen as part of the problem, were directly targeted and forced to cut their services and, hence, a main source of their income. By creating this barrier, the GSA was aiming to prevent the banks' use of deposits in the case of a failed underwriting job.

The GSA, however, was considered harsh by most in the financial community, and it was reported that even Glass himself moved to repeal the GSA shortly after it was passed, claiming it was an overreaction to the crisis.

Building More WallsDespite the lax implementation of the GSA by the Federal Reserve Board, which is the regulator of U.S. banks, in 1956, Congress made another decision to regulate the banking sector. In an effort to prevent financial conglomerates from amassing too much power, the new act focused on banks involved in the insurance sector. Congress agreed that bearing the high risks undertaken in underwriting insurance is not good banking practice. Thus, as an extension of the Glass-Steagall Act, the Bank Holding Company Act further separated financial activities by creating a wall between insurance and banking. Even though banks could, and can still can, sell insurance and insurance products, underwriting insurance was forbidden.

Were the Walls Necessary? - The New Rules of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act
The limitations of the GSA on the banking sector sparked a debate over how much restriction is healthy for the industry. Many argued that allowing banks to diversify in moderation offers the banking industry the potential to reduce risk, so the restrictions of the GSA could have actually had an adverse effect, making the banking industry riskier rather than safer. Furthermore, big banks of the post-Enron market are likely to be more transparent, lessening the possibility of assuming too much risk or masking unsound investment decisions. As such, reputation has come to mean everything in today's market, and that could be enough to motivate banks to regulate themselves.

Consequently, to the delight of many in the banking industry (not everyone, however, was happy), in November of 1999 Congress repealed the GSA with the establishment of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which eliminated the GSA restrictions against affiliations between commercial and investment banks. Furthermore, the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act allows banking institutions to provide a broader range of services, including underwriting and other dealing activities.

Although the barrier between commercial and investment banking aimed to prevent a loss of deposits in the event of investment failures, the reasons for the repeal of the GSA and the establishment of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act show that even regulatory attempts for safety can have adverse effects.

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Usedtobesupermom said...

Wow, thanks for everyone's hard work. What is happening is awesome, to say the least
 This is a dream come true for me after more than a decade of trying to wake people up. But I guess since I'm nobody famous, never got to graduate from H.S. I was called names. The one comment that someone made to me & I still can't figure it out was this one "who died and made you God?" I was told that after I said Wall Street is going to crash due to fraud within a decade. That was about 10 years before it did.

Financial napalm said...

HOLY BAILOUT - Federal Reserve Now Backstopping $75 Trillion Of Bank Of America's Derivatives Trades

means that the investment bank's European derivatives exposure is now
backstopped by U.S. taxpayers. Bank of America didn't get regulatory
approval to do this, they just did it at the request of frightened
counterparties. Now the Fed and the FDIC are fighting as to whether
this was sound. The Fed wants to "give relief" to the bank holding
company, which is under heavy pressure.

This is a direct transfer
of risk to the taxpayer done by the bank without approval by regulators
and without public input. You will also read below that JP Morgan is
apparently doing the same thing with $79 trillion of notional
derivatives guaranteed by the FDIC and Federal Reserve.

Usedtobesupermom said...

I really don't want fame. I started voicing my concerns back in the 1980's. Then I kind of got side-tracked taking care of my infant daughter & then my son. I had an older child too. In the 1990's I started again. 

That time I didn't stop. I think I discovered this site after reading an article by Matt Taibbi. I've been telling people about it since. 

I have also joined Amped Status (a couple of years ago I think) & recently What Is The Plan? (Anonymous)

In between I have joined numerous sites and orgs. to further my education-& to actively help. I have also helped get passed the New GI Bill for our veterans. I was also a citizen sponsor for the New Freedom Of Information Act. (I don't really know how I was asked to help in this).

I've done a lot of learning in a few short years- my favorite way to learn. But somehow I just "knew" about Wall Street & their fraud- this was before I had a computer & internet access. Sometimes you just know something isn't right. I got the proof I needed after I had been telling people everything I had been saying.- It's not rocket science! 

A good site (censored news) is Project Censored. I read a book in the 1990's called "20 Years Of Censored News" & I think that book sparked the fire in me again. I even had H.S. kids interested in it! :) 

One thing I keep telling people is "EVERYTHING IS RELEVANT. THEY ARE JUST THE DIFFERENT PIECES OF ONE PUZZLE" That covers wars, immigration both legal & illegal, corporate power, the selling out the American people, Wall St. owning our government, outsourcing jobs, dumbing down education, deregulation, selling off our assets to foreign companies & MORE! 
I also say Republicans & Democrats are different sides of the same coin. (for the most part).

Another reason I do what I've been doing is to give back to those (taxpayers) who allowed me to raise my kids without having to live in a slum (sec.8). I worked in between when I was able.

When I was helping campaign for (using phone & computer because of disability) Ralph Nader ('08 election) we tried to stop the bailouts! We were trying to get Congress to look at "The No Bailouts Act" by Marci Kaptur (not sure of spelling) & Peter DeFazio. Well we know what happened.

I have lot's of info & links somewhere on my computer. I can post info & links if you're interested. Some of them might take time to find. I'm not very computer literate & didn't learn how to send an email until after I had to fix my own computer. Seems I do pretty much everything backwards, but that's a different story.

Thank you again. I hope I didn't bore you. I hope you are doing well. Dang, I wish I could type!

GS666 said...

Usedtobesupermom, please email me at LarryGoldmanSachs666 (now that you know how to  I would be interested in your contributions to this site.

GS666 said...


I have believed for the better part of 3 years that Bank of America has been insolvent.  They have stayed in business by the grace of our Feds (government and privately owned Fed Reserve) by virtue of "creative" bookkeeping (phony books). 

If what you and DailyBail say is true (I have no reason to believe it is not) this is just another example of illegal activity for the betterment of the institution not the people. 

The Derivatives business was no more then a "crap shoot" with better odds at the craps table of any casino in the world. 

Banks were double and triple dipping when they created the entire slew of MBS's, CDO's CDS's - all those exotic sounding products - which were in reality fraudulent. 

As to JP Morgan, I also believe that they are or will do the same.  You see, most of the TBTF banks(ters) created the products, sold their products and even bought their products using the temporary - pre bubble - appreciation to meet their capital requirements.  SMOKE!

Now I say, "LET THEM FAIL".

There is no shortage of local and regional banks, credit unions and S &L's that will take our money and give us a checking account so that we can pay our bills - which is what most Americans use a bank for.  Why, with the influx of all of that additional cash, they might even do something very unusual - like making loans.

As a supporter of  Occupy Wall Street - I say,

Usedtobesupermom said...

Here's an excellent interview with William Black. Thanks to Alina Vilani

Must Listen: Prosecuting Financial Titans with William BlackProsecuting Financial Titans | On

Usedtobesupermom said...

Here's some more important info by RSN:

Usedtobesupermom said...

Usedtobesupermom said...

Maybe I'll get it right this time.

Cathy Consoli-Ramzy
NYPD are on the WRONG side! Doesn't that make them accomplices in the crimes of Wall Street? I believe it comes under aiding & abetting criminals which INCLUDES the government doing the same making them guilty too. Harboring or protecting criminals too.FOCUS: Wall Street and NYPD Cooperate in Super Spy‎'At least 700 cameras scour the midtown area and also relay their live feeds into the downtown center where low-wage NYPD, MTA and Port Authority crime stoppers sit alongside high-wage personnel from Wall Street firms that are currently under at least 51 Federal and state corruption probes for mortg...

usedtobesupermom said...

usedtobesupermom said...

These financial terrorists GS & the others have flooded the globe with $1.4 QUADRILLION in derivatives!! As you probably know a derivative has $0 tangible worth

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